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#1 ·
I plan to install 265/55R20 instead of the OEM 235/55R20. The height is 0.4% higher. anybody here done this ???

Robert
2014 platinum premium..
 
#2 ·
I have a 14 Platinum also and when I look at it I think the tires should be taller. My bigger worry would be will the wider tire not rub inside the fender wells. I was thinking of going to a taller series tire like 60 to get the taller look. Looks like your 235 to 265 would be about 1 5/16 of an inch taller and my 55 to 60 series would only be about 1 inch taller. Doubt either would cause a problem. Maybe someone has tried it. Or do both and be over 2 inches taller.
 
#8 ·
Installed Cooper Discoverer AT3 265/60R18 from the OEM Continental ContiTrac a few months ago with no problems. Gas mileage went down to 19 from 21, road noise did not change, but tires are nice and grippy, and look perfect. The 235's were way too narrow for my liking.
Do a search on this forum for Cooper Tires where I have posted pictures.
 
#5 ·
Wider tires = poor fuel economy, a noisier ride and worse traction in snow. Unless you're an off-roader (and I hope you aren't with this vehicle), it is best to stick to the recommended sizes.
 
#6 ·
Wider equals poor fuel eco, guess we need narrower tires then.:) Minute amount of mileage or noise matter not. It never snows here but we do have a lot of sand and grass which wider tires work better in. Really looking for taller my self (which might result in better MPG) but wider does look better in my opinion. See no harm in talking about it anyway as experimental concepts are fun.
 
#42 ·
Wider equals poor fuel eco, guess we need narrower tires then.:) Minute amount of mileage or noise matter not. It never snows here but we do have a lot of sand and grass which wider tires work better in. Really looking for taller my self (which might result in better MPG) but wider does look better in my opinion. See no harm in talking about it anyway as experimental concepts are fun.
If you want your vehicle lifted, get the suspension lifted. Why put tires that don't fit your car?
 
#7 ·
I am running on slightly wider than stock tires. 245/50/20 on stocker 20s Platinum series wheels. I wanted to go wider but I think the 245 is probably about max the stock 20s can accommodate without bulging.
 
#11 ·
What was your wheel spec? (width and offset?) Could you please share?

I was looking for staggered wheels actually 20x8.5 front and 20x 9.5 rear. Just sorting out on the offset to ensure it's not rubbing inner and outter guard.

From what I can see was from the original offset +65 (if I am not mistaken), there is a bout 50mm-70 mm inner clearance for the rear and about 50mm clearance to the outter guard for the rear. Same with the front (with only 50 mm clearance)

I was thinking put 245 front and 265 rear, I am just going for the look (in case you guys wondering)
 
#12 ·
Just something to check into

Do you have 2WD or 4WD on your Ti? I'm not sure if it holds true for other brands, but with my AWD BMW, for whatever staggered setup I decide upon, I have to make sure the rolling circumference is identical (or at least within 3%) on all four wheels. Otherwise it messes up the transfer case. Maybe you transmission experts out there can chime in on this.
 
#15 ·
Hi Tefu

I am in Sydney as well, I'm getting the Ti (waiting on delivery) my concern is the 235/55R20 is not a common tyre. I tend to go out of town for work and on rare occasion that I have a damaged tyre, like this

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I don't fancy driving back to Sydney from Bega or somewhere on a space saver because local tyre shops in small towns don't stock that size.

I was thinking of when the original set are done/nearly done putting on 245/50R20.


On Jax tyres the 235/55R20 only shows the Bridgestone 102H

245/50R20 shows 9 different tyres from 6 brands inc the Bridgestone 102V which is $60 cheaper than the 102H.


Anyone else have 245/50 on their 20 inch stock wheels?
 

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#16 · (Edited)
I was thinking more like 265/50/20... or maybe I should have get a wider wheels.

And definitely not getting 235/55/20

The 245/50/20 is slightly smaller in diameter (-2%, your speedo will be 100 km/h but you are actually doing 98km/h, good for speed camera though :D); where the 265 is only 0.7% (when the speedo says 100 km/h, you actually doing 100.7km/h). But not sure how it looks like on 7.5" wide wheels lol.

Did you get the V6 or the Hybrid?
 
#23 ·
I know this is an old thread. I am currently on wider and a tad lower profile wheels with 245/50/20s on stock 20's rims. I am having a hard time finding similar tire size on my preferred brand. I want to switch from Yokohama Parada spec-x to Continental Extreme Contact DWS or DWS06. I'd be interested to know if anybody did wider tires on stock wheels.
 
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I end up buying a lightly wider Yokohama Parada Spec-x all season tires than my current set up of 245/50/20 to 255/50/20. I found my Yokohama Parada spec-x previous tire purchase and did the math on tread wear. I put on 36,095 miles on the Yokos which is acceptable to me. I have used Yokos parada many times in the past and appreciate its quite handling and wet handling performance. Wet handling is very important to me because I-10 can collect water puddles during heavy rains in Houston.

I've heard very good reviews from Toyo Proxes ST II and they are relatively inexpensive all season tires. However, when I started reading a larger sample size review, I got discouraged with multiple comments with its tendency to hydroplane.

I started looking closely at the Continental Extreme Contact DWS06 , which I think is a nice all around tires and I think they have a longer tread life than the Yokos. They are a bit more expensive though. Purchasing a complete set with shipping and handling + taxes will be knocking on the ballpark of $900+ compared to this purchase which is only $695.
 
#27 ·
Call me crazy, but I started this a month ago, a matrix for wider tires and also... staggered setup with minimum spedo difference to the original

Option 2 and 8 are my plan for my staggered setup to to
1. speedo difference
2. cost of the tyres (in AUD$)

Just working out the wheels offset now to get it flush

Width Profile Diameter Height Change in height Speedo diff 60 km/h 110 km/h Load Rating Max Load Max Speed Model Price
Original 235 55 20 766 0 0.00% 60 110 102H 850 210 Bridgestone Dueler Sport $449.00
Option 1 265 50 20 773 7 0.91% 60.55 111.01 112V 1120 240 Federal FX $312.40
Option 2 265 50 20 773 7 0.91% 60.55 111.01 111V 1090 240 Yokohama Parada Spec X $240.00
Option 3 265 50 20 773 7 0.91% 60.55 111.01 111W 1090 270 Yokohama Advan Sport $565.00
Option 4 265 50 20 773 7 0.91% 60.55 111.01 107V 975 240 Kumho solus KL21 $304.98
Option 5 265 50 20 773 7 0.91% 60.55 111.01 111V 1090 240 Toyo Proxes ST 2 $580.00
Option 6 285 45 20 764 -2 -0.26% 59.84 109.71 112Y 1120 300 Continental ContiSportContact 5 $551.90
Option 7 295 45 20 774 8 1.04% 60.63 111.15 114V 1180 240 Federal FX $420.00
Option 8 295 45 20 774 8 1.04% 60.63 111.15 114V 1180 240 Yokohama Parada Spec X $370.00
Option 9 295 45 20 774 8 1.04% 60.63 111.15 112Y 1120 300 Bridgestone Dueler Sport $630.70
Option 10 265 40 22 771 5 0.65% 60.39 110.72 106V 950 240 Toyo Proxes ST 2 $285.00
Option 11 285 35 22 758 -8 -1.04% 59.37 108.85 106W 950 270 Toyo Proxes ST 2 $320.00
 
#28 ·
Also be aware if yours is a 4x4, that if you go with a staggered setup, the rolling circumference of all four wheels has to be the same. Otherwise, you risk the chance of differential damage.
 
#30 ·
You will be alright with the specs you have selected. The 265/50/20 fronts and 295/45/20 rear staggered set up will not mess up with your AWD. The rolling diameter of the 265/50r20 is 31" while the rolling diameter of the 295/45r20 is 30.6". This is a very negligible differential. In fact the 1st generation Nissan GT-R which is an AWD vehicle has this stock specs if I remembered correctly.

I have an AWD on my Infiniti FX35 and is running on staggered set up with 275/45/20 fronts and 295/40/45 rears. The rolling diameter between my front tires and rears are 29.3" and 29.9" respectively. Your preferred specs is actually closer than the one I currently have. Besides, any AWD would at some point have varying rolling diameters even for similar tires purchased at the same time due to tire thread wear. As long as the rolling diameter differential is not that big of a disparity, it will not mess up the vehicle's electronic sensors.

The tendency of having a disproportionate rolling diameters between the fronts and rear in AWD is for your vehicle to falsely detect a slip or loss of traction since one set of wheels will be spinning faster than the other pair of wheels. If your vehicle have smart sensors in your AWD vehicle (I think the Infiniti AWD onboard sensor that detects slip is the same with Nissan's AWD system?), the vehicle will be throwing a VDC slip warning and will attempt to make adjustments by limiting power to the wheels that is supposed to have a slippage. Bad for your vehicle.

I am running 30mm hubcentric spacers in my Infiniti FX35 on the front to give a more flushed and aggressive stance and no spacers on my rears. I'll post a picture if I find one showing the wheel stance. If you use spacers, I would strongly recommend you to use a reputable quality brand hub centric spacers only. Do not use wheel centric spacers.
 
#31 · (Edited)
Here's a picture of my other vehicle with staggered Lexani CVX-55 concave wheel set up. Front tires: Yokohama Parada spec-x 275/45/20 and rear tires: Continental Extreme Contact DWS06 295/40/20. Fronts with 30mm Ichiba hubcentric wheel spacers.


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^ sorry I tried to upload a picture and it is not letting me. Tried the URL link or direct drag and drop both not working.