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Hello everyone,
It's been just about a year now I've owned the 2014 Pathfinder SV fully loaded with the Tow Hitch, Crossbars and Fog lights all Factory Installed.
Since I have owned 2 previous Pathfinder models in the 2005 and 2008 model years I figured it was time to express my thoughts on this model now that I have had plenty of time to really understand Nissan's thinking on this redesign model.

She just Hit 10k miles on it about a month ago as I average about 10-12k per year for the last 10 years. I go on maybe 1 to 4 trips with my vehicles for vacations and road trips but usually stay local. My work is 43 miles away but I have a work van I drive during the week so my Pathfinder sits at my shop for 4 days. I work 4 days a week doing 10 hour+ days. I Drive to work Tuesday morning and then drive home Friday night. It's rare I take it home during the week.
On weekends or my 3 day weekend, I drive to the gym 3 to 4 times a week which is only 8 minutes away. I go to the grocery store once a week and thats about the same distance just minutes down the road. I have a family of 4 but both my kids are older now meaning my son is 19 and my daughter is 17.
We go out as a family maybe 2 to 3 times a month to dinner , out shopping ,parks , gym all together etc.
My wife has a 2013 Sentra SR fully loaded Sunroof, Bose system etc and we use that sometimes as it's fun to drive and roomy as **** for how small it is. She doesn't like it anymore especially coming out of a Xterra and we have some bad winters here. She will most likely get another Xterra before this winter.

So I'll start out with all the things I like about the New Pathfinder design. First and foremost the interior is a huge improvement over the last gen. It's way more comfortable and I love the dash and center console layout. Yeah it's a bit more on the sissy side as Nissan took away the more truck like feel , it feels more like my Murano then it did the 2008 SE Pathfinder I had before the Murano.
There is plenty of leg room in all seats except the 3rd row which is really made for children but small adults can fit back there I just wouldn't want to take a road trip and rely on those seats for them. Kids yeah that would be fine. I also wouldn't want 3 people in the back seat for more then a 20 minute ride. Yeah you can fit everyone in there but at the expense of being comfortable. I have sat in the back seat and 3rd row and I couldn't do it for more then 20 mins comfortable with 3 people in the back seat and 2 people in the 3rd row.
The passenger seat is very nice to sit in as I have had my wife and son drive me around which is a nice break as I do drive a lot at work and I always drive no matter what car we take. I even drive my son's car which is a 2008 Audi A4 but honestly I don't mind driving that as all as it's wonderful to drive and really takes me back to when I owned a 2000 BMW 328i. I do miss owning a car many times as honestly driving SUV's is nothing like owning a sports car. I'm a huge car guy, German car guy and american muscle car guy and i have given up that part of my life for family, Mountain bike riding and owning a Part time AV business. I do however see myself getting back into a sports car as a toy not a daily driver. I'm considering a Audi S5 or a RS5.
Taking the Pathfinder on vacation is a pleasure. It has plenty of room inside for luggage for 3 to 4 people and you don't get road fatigue after an hour or so.
Gas mileage is great as with a full truck load on vacation I still get 24-26 MPG averaging about 60-70 MPH highway. Around town same load I'm still getting 19-22MPG which is fantastic and you can use 87 fuel. My 2008 required 91 fuel or better and got 17MPH around town and 20-22MPG
Now for things I don't like about it, where do I begin?
So first and foremost the power. Yeah it's got good pickup when it finally kicks in. It has a strange lag when you want to pass someone or just go full throttle. If you ever owned a Turbo car with a large Turbo , it take a second or 2 for it to spool up and then you get this rush of power. In the time your waiting , your on engine power alone and it doesn't feel anywhere near as powerful. This thing does the same thing but there is nothing when you first stomp on the gas. It's takes like 2 to 3 seconds to go. So if your driving lets say 55 and you want to get around someone in the right lane who is going under the speed limit, to get in the passing lane and get around them you have to wait for the **** thing to go. There is no Turbo on this car as it's naturally aspirated but it reacts **** near the same but worse as there is nothing for like 2 seconds. I think it's the transmission as it doesn't react fast. It's one thing I would like to go back to the transmission in the older pathfinder. What I find completely strange is that I didn't have this issue with the Murano which was a 2011 model year. When I pressed on the gas , it went, there was no crazy lag. I hate this the most about this thing.
Paint quality, honestly it's piss poor. I have owned enough Nissans to know their quality standards and this thing is terrible. In just a few months I already had mad rock chip or pepper spray as the service Manager called it all over the front end. None of my previous had anywhere near this many chips in 3 years let alone under a year. I went to the dealer ship to have other things fixed and I pointed out this concern of mine. He told me it's normal on this model as they all do it. He has one himself and it looks worse then mine which gives me no confidence in keeping my truck in perfect condition as I try to do. I'm garage kept, washed and waxed all the time and keep the interior spotless. I take great pride in my vehicles.
Body fit is awful. Every single panel or door is crooked. I had the hood fixed as it was off by a lot and I have to take it back to get the doors and rear hatch fixed.
The Molding around the windshield had to be fixed as well the the black door trim around the windows bubbled and had to be replaced.
On the interior the entire rug had to be replaced as it was cut wrong from the factory and pass QC which you could see the metal for in the back seat around the legs of the back seat. I thought it was just installed wrong when i noticed it which I didn't when I purchased it. If I did then I would have selected another one.
The back window doesn't open. This is something I loved as I mountain bike ride and when you have a bike rack on the 2 inch hitch, you can't open the back hatch unless you drop the bike rack down which is fine but it was no nice just to be able to open the back window and put your helmet gloves and back pack in there. I also change by shoes as I don't like any dirt inside my truck. I don't wear my mountain bike shoes in truck, I change them at the back hatch but now I have to drop the back seat down and change at the side door. It's ok I guess but I much would rather have the opening back window back.
The Stereo, it's the same **** one since 2008. Really? This couldn't have been upgraded to a better quality screen? It's so 2008 crappy LCD. My neighor picked up a new Jeep and I checked out the interior and their screen puts mine to shame. It's bigger and way better quality. It's actually awesome. For a Japanese ride of this quality I expect more. I really hope they ditch this thing and come out with a way better unit. I'm sure the NAV unit is better but still dated if you ask me.
Snow driving. Now my last 2 Pathfinders where beasts in the snow they both came factory with BF goodrich tires which where monsters in the snow and ice. They where amazing and felt like you could drive through anything. Those Pathfinder lived up to their names and honored it. This thing is worse in the snow then the Murano which I had zero issues with. I was actually surprised how **** good the Murano was compared to this thing. Mine has Continental Tires on it which are all season but I felt unsafe driving in the snow. I don't but a SUV to change tires for summer and winter like I would a sports car IF I was going to do any winter driving in it. I find that unexceptable. Rain and dry conditions are fine on issues at all.
The 4x4 system sucks. When you are in 2 wheel drive your front wheel drive. I noticed this early when I would drive around in 2 wheel drive and spun the front tires on a hill and it take off like a front wheel drive vehicle with crappy steering feel if your turning and excelerating. I hate that I can't have rear wheel drive in 2 wheel, I wish you could select it. So I just drive around in Auto so I get somewhat of a all wheel drive feel. My Son's Audi doesn't feel like this at all. It plants itself no matter what you are doing. you never even feel like you have a front wheel drive car at all. The Quadro system is amazing and Nissan could learn many things from the Germans. That car is truly amazing and I know it's apples and oranges in some respects but it's all wheel drive and you would not know it except that **** thing sticks to the ground no matter when you are doing with no wheel spin. In the rain it's crazy how it feels, you feel so safe driving in heavy down pours. Now it might have better tires in Perrelli P7's I think they are But come on Nissan you really need to re think this design. The Murano never felt like a front wheel drive vehicle why does the Pathfinder drive so poorly in comparison? Is it to big for this style? I'd like to know as I have seen the thread on the reprogramming of the Transmission and I'm gonna make my dealership Perform that and see it any of this gets straightened out.
Funny I don't have the jitter thing others talk about. Mine doesn't do that at all and I have over 10K miles on it now( I think it's close to 11k like 10750 or so now). So I guess thats one thing I can be happy about is I don't have to deal with that issue.
No side steps. What the **** is the purpose of that stupid looking trim piece on the bottoms of the doors? It's as goofy and un useful as anything I have ever seen on anything. It serves NO purpose and looks stupid. If I was going to keep this thing, I would have it removed. I'd much rather have the factory step sides like what came on both my 2005 and 2008 Pathfinders which where very useful when getting and in out and using the roof rack.

So there you have it my 1 year review. My final thought is this , I don't think I will get another on unless they make improvements on the things I'm unhappy with. I did a full survey on this for Nissan and I hope they read it and fix the issues I have with this design. As a 3rd Nissan Pathfinder owner I think I have some right to voice my concerns , likes and dislikes of the direction they choose to go with it. I also think personally it's that in itself to choose to keep driving them or move on. Right now if the new models keep in this direction, I'm moving on. Quality fit and finish is enough for me to want to drive something else. I have been with Nissan since 1990 with also owing a Buick Grand National , Linclon Mark VII and a BMW 328i but have always had a Nissan in my garage since 1990 along with those other cars. And for good reasons. I moved away from GM to go to Nissan due to quality fit and finish. I was a GM , GMC and NISSAN technician back in the day and was so surprised how much better the Nissan product was. We did maintenance the Nissan's and fixed the GM's plain and simple. It was a huge imbalance between the 2. You go to the recalls and Nissan would have 1 to 3 and the GM's would have 10- 30. Thats a huge difference if you ask me and things would go wrong so much earlier on the GM's. I loved GM all my life until I became a Technician and saw the quality difference.

I really hope Nissan isn't going down the GM road where they are going to ride their name and slack on quality. When my lease is up I plan on driving many different vehicles before I even step foot into the Nissan dealership.
 

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Tell us how you really feel, Mantis! :laughing: Just kidding! GREAT review! :sigh:

Seriously, as I've said before, with all the fit and finish flaws you've mentioned, I truly think you got a lemon. Whoever assembled your vehicle must have "tied one on" the night before or must have been pissed at management. The vast majority of members on this forum haven't experienced any of the flaws you mentioned.

Your disdain for the redesign from a true SUV is shared by some other members of this board, but you knew (or should have known) what you were getting when you first test drove it. It's a crossover, not an SUV, and personally, I think Nissan made a good move in choosing this direction. Sales of the R51 were certainly decreasing, and I'm guessing that they felt that they could increase sales of both the Pathfinder and Xterra by moving in this direction.

Once again, a great review! :goodjob: I hope this thread inspires others to write their own.
 

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IMHO I think you need to turn in your lease, find a nice used pre gen PF in good condition, and live happily ever after....
 

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Tell us how you really feel, Mantis! :laughing: Just kidding! GREAT review! :sigh:

Seriously, as I've said before, with all the fit and finish flaws you've mentioned, I truly think you got a lemon. Whoever assembled your vehicle must have "tied one on" the night before or must have been pissed at management. The vast majority of members on this forum haven't experienced any of the flaws you mentioned.

Your disdain for the redesign from a true SUV is shared by some other members of this board, but you knew (or should have known) what you were getting when you first test drove it. It's a crossover, not an SUV, and personally, I think Nissan made a good move in choosing this direction. Sales of the R51 were certainly decreasing, and I'm guessing that they felt that they could increase sales of both the Pathfinder and Xterra by moving in this direction.

Once again, a great review! :goodjob: I hope this thread inspires others to write their own.
Thanks Jay,
I knew what I was getting into when I got it but you don't truly know a vehicle until you own if for a while. It is discovery period you go through.
I always enjoy reading personal review over professional, some professional reviews read as they have a vested interest in the given product.
 

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IMHO I think you need to turn in your lease, find a nice used pre gen PF in good condition, and live happily ever after....
You probably very right here.
 

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What's a fully loaded SV? In Canada, only the SL trim have the options.
The SV firm package plus all the options you can get for it basically as I added the Crossbars , Fog Lights , tow hitch , floor mats , Wheel Locks , Splash Guards , Stainless steel bumper guard , Cargo Package , Hitch Ball , Rear cargo net , etc.
 

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The SV firm package plus all the options you can get for it basically as I added the Crossbars , Fog Lights , tow hitch , floor mats , Wheel Locks , Splash Guards , Stainless steel bumper guard , Cargo Package , Hitch Ball , Rear cargo net , etc.
You added all those as aftermarket items...aren't you leasing though? You are being very generous to Nissan if you turn the vehicle back in with all those extras.
 

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You added all those as aftermarket items...aren't you leasing though? You are being very generous to Nissan if you turn the vehicle back in with all those extras.
None of them are aftermarket items. They are all factory installed.
 

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I think you meant to say Dealer installed. Factory installed means they were shipped from the plant with them on it. You mentioned a while ago that you had them installed at the dealership.
 

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I think you meant to say Dealer installed. Factory installed means they were shipped from the plant with them on it. You mentioned a while ago that you had them installed at the dealership.
Everything was factory Installed except at the dealer they Installed the Tow Hitch, Crossbars and Fog Lights.
 

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I have '13 PF with less than 15K miles; I haven't noticed the 'judder' either, thankfully. Our paint job seems to be fine. I agree about the 3rd row seat - pretty useless except for small kids - my 2 10 yr-olds were not happy riding very far back there 2 yrs ago & I certainly wouldn't have both of them there now! One can sit a bit sideways, but 2 is just a bad idea! We've had the passenger front seat & sensor replaced because the airbag sensor didn't always detect someone. Looks like we'll be taking it in again for the same thing...

How is the rear visibility in your model? We have taken the 2nd row headrests off so we can see properly out the rear window, and the 3rd row is folded down always for more storage, which also greatly improves visibility. We're not thrilled with the size of the rather large side view mirrors either as they block low views of the street/curb when turning. Apparently the PF is not the only vehicle this size with the same issues - a friend has a similar-sized Dodge SUV with similar issues.
 

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I have '13 PF with less than 15K miles; I haven't noticed the 'judder' either, thankfully. Our paint job seems to be fine. I agree about the 3rd row seat - pretty useless except for small kids - my 2 10 yr-olds were not happy riding very far back there 2 yrs ago & I certainly wouldn't have both of them there now! One can sit a bit sideways, but 2 is just a bad idea! We've had the passenger front seat & sensor replaced because the airbag sensor didn't always detect someone. Looks like we'll be taking it in again for the same thing...

How is the rear visibility in your model? We have taken the 2nd row headrests off so we can see properly out the rear window, and the 3rd row is folded down always for more storage, which also greatly improves visibility. We're not thrilled with the size of the rather large side view mirrors either as they block low views of the street/curb when turning. Apparently the PF is not the only vehicle this size with the same issues - a friend has a similar-sized Dodge SUV with similar issues.
The Visibility should be the same as yours. The 2013 model year was the first year of this style. Taking out the head rests on the 2nd row isn't a bad idea at all especially if no one is using that seating often. Mine gets used maybe once a week or so. I think I'm gonna take mine out as well.
I don't have any issues with the side mirrors at all. They do their job and don't get in my way.
 

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I agree about the 3rd row seat - pretty useless except for small kids - my 2 10 yr-olds were not happy riding very far back there 2 yrs ago & I certainly wouldn't have both of them there now! One can sit a bit sideways, but 2 is just a bad idea!
We've actually had 8 adults in our Pathfinder on occasion when we're camping with our group and our vehicle seems to be the only one available that can accommodate everybody. While I agree that the 3rd row space is "cozy", there have not been any complaints for our short jaunts. The issue has been more trying to get out from there than actually sitting in the space. :giggle:
 

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So my Lease runs out in July THANK GOD!!!!!
I can't wait to get out of this horrible vehicle.

It's been awhile since I posted here and I noticed this forum in my favorites so I decided to share my coming to a close thoughts about this generation Pathfinder.

For the first almost 2 years I didn't have the typical Transmission issues everyone else claimed to have. I thought cool mine was at least built right in this department. Boy was I wrong. My Transmission starts doing all kinds of strange things. Low speeds it would jerk back and forth, it slips into gear on a hill if your going slow then speeding up, it feels like it was in neutral then jumps into gear.
The Mud flab that is in front of the passengers side rear tire was hanging under the vehicle. I heard this rattle as I was driving down the highway at about 65mph and my son was in the car and tried to figure out where it was coming from.
When I got home I looked all over the interior and the back door and when I got out I saw the mud flap hanging down. It was held on by one loose bolt as the others fell out. So I removed it and stuck it in the back as I was gong in for a oil change anyway.
The Window molding on the Passengers side lower corner near the wiper blades keeps coming loose. I had this fixed about 3 times now and now they are going to order a replacement part.
It sucks on hills if there is any loose gravel, since it's really front wheel drive and when it feels like it AWD it spins the tires when you try to turn left or right from a hill at a red light or stop sign.
In the snow it's absolutely horrible. My Son's Audi A4 feels so much more solid in the snow which is embarrassing. I hate the way it feels in the weather even rain I'm uncomfortable.
I could go on and on about all the things I hate about this Non Pathfinder Pathfinder but it really doesn't matter much anymore as I only have a few more months to live with it.

For the sheer **** of it as I'm a very long time Nissan owner and in many ways sad to fully depart from them( My wife now drives a Jeep ) I checked out the new 2017 Pathfinder since they remodeled it just a bit with some more power, new front end etc.
It's basically the same **** thing. I asked the salesman about it as I was not very happy with my 2014, he said then you probably will not be happy with this one either. As it's a refresh and they didn't change much at all.
Even the extra power doesn't really feel like anything has changed.

I hope one day Nissan makes a real Pathfinder again so I can maybe one day go back. For now I'm gearing up for a 2017 or if they are out in July a 2018 Dodge Durango R/T . I drove one and man what a nice solid rear wheel driving machine. Wow how much better I like it over the Pathfinder. I never have been a fan of Dodge but this thing is pretty fantastic. The V8 engine is awesome and really growls when you push it. It handles so well and takes hills like it is it's job.
 

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I hear you, although I like many aspects of the PF, I don't feel I own a reliable vehicle and I am always fearing what's going to go bad once the warranty runs out. I also agree with what you said about handling in snow, my AWD Sienna is by far better.

I have no plans to replace my PF for now, I need to buy a second new car as my Mazda 6 and my Sienna are more than 10 years old. I also have the Durango in mind, I drove a brand new R/T for about a week, (first renter - 17 km on the dash!) from Enterprise on one of those non-rare occasions my PF was camping at the dealer. I really liked it and am eager to find out if the new SRT will be within my reach.
 
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