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Okay, got my very base model Pathfinder. Did not come with the roof rails. I have tried to talk to people about installing a Thule kit and i was informed they do not make one for the 2013 Pathfinder. So then i called Nissan dealership to see if they could install the OEM rails, and they said 'not after the fact'...i refuse to believe that i am stuck without the possibility of a roof rack...that plastic screw cover that's on it, shouldn't i be able to remove that and install a roof rack kit like the one from Thule? Be gentle guys, this is my first SUV and i dont know squat when it comes to this stuff BUT any help would be much appreciated! I need to go kayaking, among many other things, so please help me out if you can!

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Yazz, It looks like you will have to go low-tech for awhile to get your kayak-fix. Foam wedges will have to suffice until Yakima and Thule get their act together on fits for bare-roofed Pathy's. I don't know why the dealer can't attach the rails aftermarket--seems strange.
 

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Okay, got my very base model Pathfinder. Did not come with the roof rails. I have tried to talk to people about installing a Thule kit and i was informed they do not make one for the 2013 Pathfinder. So then i called Nissan dealership to see if they could install the OEM rails, and they said 'not after the fact'...i refuse to believe that i am stuck without the possibility of a roof rack...that plastic screw cover that's on it, shouldn't i be able to remove that and install a roof rack kit like the one from Thule? Be gentle guys, this is my first SUV and i dont know squat when it comes to this stuff BUT any help would be much appreciated! I need to go kayaking, among many other things, so please help me out if you can!

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Hey Yazz,
Did you get an answer to this question yet? I like the stubby rails that are on the Infinity and was wondering if they would fit my Pathy....Anybody?
 

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Yazz,

If there are inserts along the outer edge of the roof then you can install a roof rack. The dealer is full of crap. Go aftermarket and find a rack dealer or check the websites.
 

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I was wondering the same, there are plenty SUVs out there that seem to be the same dimensions yet the dealer refuses to tell me anything. No luck yet, even in the aftermarket spectrum. Thule doesnt have any options available for a 'naked roof' which sucks, but I wont give up. Sorry it took forever to write back, been out of commission here, but i am doing my best to find a resolution to this. I am about to do my wheels in black, then the chrome accents are going black, eventually to have it all be a matte black (just like that stuff) then the new bull guard (front only) is going to be installed, and the roof rails and rack would be awesome!
 

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So then i called Nissan dealership to see if they could install the OEM rails, and they said 'not after the fact'...i refuse to believe that i am stuck without the possibility of a roof rack...
You need to find a different dealer... surely you can find one who will sell you the OEM parts you need. Apparently your dealer just doesn't want to make money!

It looks like there isn't a "kit" since this isn't sold as an accessory, but you could just buy these parts and do it yourself. There won't be instructions (unless you get a service manual), but it doesn't really look too complicated. Especially if there are inserts at the mounting points.

Here is the part diagram for the roof rails (and part numbers for each part you will need):
 
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Thank you for the diagram and parts...i was thinking about doing that and as you said, it does not seem complicated at all. I pulled back some of the plastic and saw the screws and all that for the attachment. The only tricky part would be cutting the plastic right, so that your roof doesnt look all rugged (which is technically what I am going for but you get the point)...

I am ordering my bull guard today, i wanted to wait for more options but for what it is, and how it looks, i think i'll get it. I'll be uploading pics for everyone to see.

at least i have learned a valuable lesson: BUY SUV WITH THE **** ROOF RAIL lol

thanks for the input!
 

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update:

just got off the phone with a dealership and the parts department explained that the reason i cannot find one is because the 'naked roof' option doesnt even have the weight support that is also installed under the top of the car. So pretty much i am SOL for one. I still don't understand how I could not install something myself because it's not like they made my roof out of brittle plastic. I think dcline414 hit it on the head with 'DIY' option. I am sure my roof can handle a darn kayak that barely weighs anything. If not...well...**** lol
 

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just got off the phone with a dealership and the parts department explained that the reason i cannot find one is because the 'naked roof' option doesnt even have the weight support that is also installed under the top of the car. So pretty much i am SOL for one. I still don't understand how I could not install something myself because it's not like they made my roof out of brittle plastic. I think dcline414 hit it on the head with 'DIY' option. I am sure my roof can handle a darn kayak that barely weighs anything. If not...well...**** lol
I find that weight support claim to be BS, how the heck does it handle the pressure from the wind when going at highway speeds if it' can't support weight.

I would try to get a second opinion.
 

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I find that weight support claim to be BS, how the heck does it handle the pressure from the wind when going at highway speeds if it' can't support weight.

I would try to get a second opinion.
It seems to me that the primary function of any sort of "weight" support would be to improve crash safety (and the highly publicized ratings). I can't imagine that they actually produce a different version of the roof for the small fraction of Pathfinders sold as the base trim without roof rails. All other versions come standard with them, and it sounds like it was an option on the S trim level as well. So they make 5-10% without roof rails? Hardly seems like it would justify the cost of producing a different roof structure.

Edit to add: There is a 21lb curb weight difference between the S and the SV. The power driver's seat and 7" info screen have to account for some if not most of that weight difference. So unless their roof reinforcement is made of tin foil, I think this myth is officially busted.
 

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It seems to me that the primary function of any sort of "weight" support would be to improve crash safety (and the highly publicized ratings). I can't imagine that they actually produce a different version of the roof for the small fraction of Pathfinders sold as the base trim without roof rails. All other versions come standard with them, and it sounds like it was an option on the S trim level as well. So they make 5-10% without roof rails? Hardly seems like it would justify the cost of producing a different roof structure.

Edit to add: There is a 21lb curb weight difference between the S and the SV. The power driver's seat and 7" info screen have to account for some if not most of that weight difference. So unless their roof reinforcement is made of tin foil, I think this myth is officially busted.
Ah love how you ended that lol
Thats what I was thinking but of course you have a sense of 'fear' of a Nissan representative to be correct. Even if they placed some type of support underneath the roof, the roof rack is on the edge, where its supposed to be nailed to the frame/strong part of the car, so not being able to support any type of weight on the roof is crap. I am going to climb up and have a seat, if my 190lbs behind falls through, i will post pictures of course.

I am just so disappointed that the dealership service/parts departments would be of such little help and going against all business procedures to gain a customer. I am also mad at the salesperson not pointing any of it out to me. Its my first SUV so thinking about a roof rail was the last thing on my mind, but i aint mad, you live and you learn. That kayak though, is goingup there one way or another!

Thanks for the input peeps! Ill keep yall posted!
 

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I am going to climb up and have a seat, if my 190lbs behind falls through, i will post pictures of course.
Love the testing methodology... way to really invest yourself!

That kayak though, is goingup there one way or another!
May I suggest my standard fix-all solution?
 
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Love the testing methodology... way to really invest yourself!


May I suggest my standard fix-all solution?
LMAO! good point! cheap and very effective and since I live in the South, it's pretty much our heritage here :p

I am about to buy some fog lights and man, after reading how to install these things...i almost wish i didnt...once they are installed I am sure I will like it...maybe the bumper isnt equipped to hold fog lights now and my car will nosedive into the ground :eek:
 

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The foglight job is no big deal. Did it myself and all you have to do is be very careful with a flat screw driver for the trim removal. I actually find a butter knife to be perfect for removing trim.

I looked at the Nissan Service manual that somebody posted on here and it tells you exactly how to remove the S level plastic trim. Under that you'll see the screws for the roof rack. There is a different trim set for the roof rack to accommodate the rack posts but if you get the Infinity roof finishing trim, you can actually install cross rails to it. What holds the trim is actually the front and back end slots that fold under near the windshield and the back of the car. You're dealers are speaking out of their butts! Go around back and talk to their AutoBody technicians as they're the guys that actually know what they're talking about.
 

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I actually had the same the issue with a 2011 Kia Sorrento. Found out there are bolts that are welded to the roof frame at the factory, if you get a model that does have a roof rack, a factory one cannot added because there is nothing to attach it to. Not sure that this is the same with pathfinder.
 

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Hey Yazz
The foglight job is no big deal. Did it myself and all you have to do is be very careful with a flat screw driver for the trim removal. I actually find a butter knife to be perfect for removing trim.

I looked at the Nissan Service manual that somebody posted on here and it tells you exactly how to remove the S level plastic trim. Under that you'll see the screws for the roof rack. There is a different trim set for the roof rack to accommodate the rack posts but if you get the Infinity roof finishing trim, you can actually install cross rails to it. What holds the trim is actually the front and back end slots that fold under near the windshield and the back of the car. You're dealers are speaking out of their butts! Go around back and talk to their AutoBody technicians as they're the guys that actually know what they're talking about.
wow...very interesting...so the FX35 or something would fit on my pathfinder? I'll have to do some more research. I am about to install my fog lights this weekend and a bull guard and smoke my lights out a bit (going for that SWAT look I guess lol)

I understand that it does not have that support that they are talking about, but i saw some screws below that plastic covering and I am sure I can make something work with it. It'll have to be a bit of innovative techniques on my end, but if there is a will there is a way.

thanks for the input!

do you know what Infinity would fit off the top of your head?
 

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I actually had the same the issue with a 2011 Kia Sorrento. Found out there are bolts that are welded to the roof frame at the factory, if you get a model that does have a roof rack, a factory one cannot added because there is nothing to attach it to. Not sure that this is the same with pathfinder.
Thankfully it is not. I lifted the plastic a bit and saw screws...it is however missing the extra metal 'things' below the roof, but that doesnt mean that it cannot support any weight at all. Dealerships are just stupid and ignorant when it comes to doing stuff yourself. I called to see how much they would install my fog lights for me since I didnt feel like doing it, thinking since I have the parts it'll be like $100 max...nope...it's '$225 and it'll take hours, sir'...God, those people are just idiots and a complete rip off!
 

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Thankfully it is not. I lifted the plastic a bit and saw screws...it is however missing the extra metal 'things' below the roof, but that doesnt mean that it cannot support any weight at all. Dealerships are just stupid and ignorant when it comes to doing stuff yourself. I called to see how much they would install my fog lights for me since I didnt feel like doing it, thinking since I have the parts it'll be like $100 max...nope...it's '$225 and it'll take hours, sir'...God, those people are just idiots and a complete rip off!
Just a word of caution... If you look at the Nissan Parts catalog, you will see the Pathfinder models above yours have the following part that your does not.

73120M - REINFORCE ASSYROOF

This reinforcement contains a series of supports which are installed under the roof. You could in theory remove your headliner and install this kit yourself. Just remember that not only does this reinforcement support the down-force (weight) of your loaded roof rails. It also supports the up-force (lift). A loaded car carrier at 65MPH is just a big wing on your roof. Without the underlying support you may also get a sunroof for free.
 

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Just a word of caution... If you look at the Nissan Parts catalog, you will see the Pathfinder models above yours have the following part that your does not.

73120M - REINFORCE ASSYROOF

This reinforcement contains a series of supports which are installed under the roof. You could in theory remove your headliner and install this kit yourself. Just remember that not only does this reinforcement support the down-force (weight) of your loaded roof rails. It also supports the up-force (lift). A loaded car carrier at 65MPH is just a big wing on your roof. Without the underlying support you may also get a sunroof for free.
Oh that made me laugh...I will be the first one to sport a convertible version of the Pathfinder. No need to innovate as they did with the Murano...I got this! (hold my beer)

**on a serious note, i did learn that my SUV does not have that 'stuff' under the roof so I guess for the next few years...no roof rack for me....pshh...yeah right, i am testing it out one way or another. A kayak isn't that much weight and pretty aerodynamic (notice how i make excuses for myself when need be)
 

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wow...very interesting...so the FX35 or something would fit on my pathfinder? I'll have to do some more research. I am about to install my fog lights this weekend and a bull guard and smoke my lights out a bit (going for that SWAT look I guess lol)

I understand that it does not have that support that they are talking about, but i saw some screws below that plastic covering and I am sure I can make something work with it. It'll have to be a bit of innovative techniques on my end, but if there is a will there is a way.

thanks for the input!

do you know what Infinity would fit off the top of your head?
The JX trim roof trim kit would fit, I'm sure. It's just there for show and not load bearing I think.
 
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