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4500 lbs dry will be alot more than the towing capacity when loaded. And there is GVW to consider.
Agree, 4500 lbs. is pushing the limit unless you consider the 2017 with 6000 lbs. capacity.
 

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You should be fine then.
 

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Yes I definitely have a brake controller. Honestly don't want to ride with anything other than a couple of gallons to pee on the side of the road ?. Plus clothes bikes and food.
 

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Well I sold my hybrid camper. Off to the bunkhouse! Getting a 2016 prowler Lynx. Coming in at 4800lbs. Dry. I guess I'll be the 6k guinne ?. Should be getting it tomorrow. I'll let you guys know how the first tow home goes!
 

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Just curious how many people who tow (with say 2013-2016 models) have had CVT shudder issues ? Reason I am asking, is my Pathfinder now is looking at another valve body or new CVT at 53000km, the 4th valve body, if i count the first 2 CVT failures, these are so common now that a lot of independent transmission specialists (in Sydney/Aus) are repairing them now (where they can), and one that i spoke to in particular said they are now getting a lot of 2014 pathfinders out of warranty coming in for CVT repairs (namely valve bodies) and was told generally the CVTs on the pathfinders are OK, until you start towing, and to be honest both last 2 valve body failures (shuddering) have happened a few weeks after i towed my boat, which isn't that heavy.

I generally only tow a boat or a camping trailer.
 

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I have been using my 2013 Pathy for towing a 3800-4300 lb. camping trailer since we bought it new that year. Maybe 4-5 trips per year since. We experienced the shutter twice in that time (one was during a camping trip, but the trailer wasn't hooked up at the time). We were carrying 6 or 7 passengers and it was a hot day. The last time was over 2 years ago and the programming recalls have been performed since then. My conclusion is that the towing has neither caused or exasperated the problem.
 

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Well, first road test complete! Just drove home our new camper with my 2017 Pathfinder! 4814 dry weight
Without changing the previous owners weight distribution heights. Only minor sag. No hesitation what so ever in the gas pedal. I was pleasantly surprised! Transmission shifted normal (in tow mode obviously). The brake controller only needed minor adjustments. But all in all, "happy camper". Lol sorry for that pitiful attempt at humor
 

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Is it really 6000lb tow capacity though? What's the GCWR of vehicle and trailer? Is it still 10000lbs? If so... A driverless 4300lb Pathfinder could only tow 5700lbs?

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I am not a mathlete. All these numbers spin my head. From the door jam label on my PF it shows a combined GVWC of 11149. The car is 4525lbs. If the GVWR is 5986lbs. that means to max out I can put 1461 pounds of people and cargo wt in my car. (Which I’d never do. There are only 2 of us in vehicle and at most have 2 sets of golf clubs and camp chairs, fishing’s rods, maybe a small travel cooler. combined wt of all that is approx 500lbs).

TT is 4200lbs dry wt. Don’t usually drive loaded with water. Maybe 10 Gallons = 83 lbs. And of course food and clothing and whatever is in the storage area. We’ve gone on about 10 trips since purchasing our TT and have had no issues pulling this TT. Got WDB/ stabilizing bars. A brake system on it as well. I mostly have traveled in FL, and the PF has been awesome. My questions are 1. how will it do in the mountains? 2. For the }flat land are we within safe limits for weight?
 

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I am not a mathlete. All these numbers spin my head. From the door jam label on my PF it shows a combined GVWC of 11149. The car is 4525lbs. If the GVWR is 5986lbs. that means to max out I can put 1461 pounds of people and cargo wt in my car. (Which I’d never do. There are only 2 of us in vehicle and at most have 2 sets of golf clubs and camp chairs, fishing’s rods, maybe a small travel cooler. combined wt of all that is approx 500lbs).

TT is 4200lbs dry wt. Don’t usually drive loaded with water. Maybe 10 Gallons = 83 lbs. And of course food and clothing and whatever is in the storage area. We’ve gone on about 10 trips since purchasing our TT and have had no issues pulling this TT. Got WDB/ stabilizing bars. A brake system on it as well. I mostly have traveled in FL, and the PF has been awesome. My questions are 1. how will it do in the mountains? 2. For the }flat land are we within safe limits for weight?
So for GVWC, you would add the curb weight, plus people and cargo, plus the weight of the loaded trailer.
For GVWR, you would take curb weight, people and cargo, PLUS tongue weight of the trailer. Your trailer will probably be somewhere just shy of 5000lbs loaded (what is the GVWR of the trailer? Should be on the sticker). That means you will want somewhere between 500-750lbs of tongue weight. So you should still be under your legal weight limits.
In the mountains, you are probably going to be working hard, but it will tow it. Just don't try to keep up with traffic if it doesn't want to. The max tow rating doesn't mean it can still maintain 60mph up a mountain.
 

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Thanks emartin,

GVWR = 5986
People = 350
Car cargo = 200
Tongue weight = 450
Curb wt = 4525 + 1000 = 5525
461lbs. below GVWR. Correct?

Sticker says, people and cargo should not exceed 1149 lbs and that would include the tongue wt.? So I’m 149lbs under correct?

TT GVWR is 5692.
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Dry wt. = 4200
2 Propane = 60
1 Battery =. 40
10 gal water = 83
Total = 4383
Guessing... TT cargo 400 lbs
combined = 4783

5692 - 4783 = 909 Lbs would be what I could have as TT cargo to absolutely max it out? (wouldn’t do that!)

So the PF Has a 6000 lb tow capacity. The TT loaded is 4783 so I’m under 1217lbs. Just about 80% of capacity which is awesome!

The combined towing and vehicle weight should not be beyond 11,000lbs. I have vehicle at 5525 and TT at 4783 = 10,308 so I’m combined 692 under! Do I need more clearance for a total?

Hope I’m right with this process. Next time I go out I plan on weighing all of it so I know exactly what weighs what!

Thank you for your help! Think my head has stopped spinning. 🤪

two questions:

1. Do I factor in the WD and sway bars weight or is that part of the tongue wt?
2. When packing the TT I try to keep cargo over the axle balanced left to right. Is this a good idea or does it not matter? Frig is in the back so that food weight is in the back.

Thanks so much from “The Dragon’s Nest“ our TT!
 
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