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I just purchased a '13 PF SL on Wednesday. I live in MN, so one of my must-haves was an auto starter. I work nights in a hospital, so I am going out to my car in the morning with single digit temps, having to scrape windows and freeze my tail off until car warms up. Unfortunately, the range on the PF auto starter is not even close to enough for what I need to reach my car from the hospital. I am not a good judge of distance, but I can "see" my car from the window of the hospital. My guess would be about 500 feet.

I tried the remote under the chin trick, but that doesnt help. Thinking about getting an after market starter, but does anyone know how that would effect the functionality of the intelli-key?

I love the PF in every other aspect but this, just wish I could get this figured out so I can love it in every way....
 

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Have you tried unlocking and locking your vehicle while looking at it from that distance? I am having some issues with my remote start as well. It starts about 70% of the time, but it is not due to distance becouse the lock features work. I have it on the list of things for the service department to look at.
 

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I just purchased a '13 PF SL on Wednesday. I live in MN, so one of my must-haves was an auto starter. I work nights in a hospital, so I am going out to my car in the morning with single digit temps, having to scrape windows and freeze my tail off until car warms up. Unfortunately, the range on the PF auto starter is not even close to enough for what I need to reach my car from the hospital. I am not a good judge of distance, but I can "see" my car from the window of the hospital. My guess would be about 500 feet.

I tried the remote under the chin trick, but that doesnt help. Thinking about getting an after market starter, but does anyone know how that would effect the functionality of the intelli-key?

I love the PF in every other aspect but this, just wish I could get this figured out so I can love it in every way....
That is something you are going to have to inquire with an alarm specialist. There might be a way to install the remote starter and not disable or affect any of the stock components. Search for a reputable audio and alarm specialist in your area.
 

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I would be very surprised if an aftermarket remote starter could be installed in an intelligent key vehicle. Smart keys have been around for quite awhile, but typically the installer works around this by embedding a spare key behind the dash or programming a dedicated module to defeat the immobilizer. This negates the usefulness of an immobilizer system, but it works and is convenient.

Unfortunately, intelligent key systems take this to the next level - that is - when your key is close to the car, not only will it start the vehicle, but it will also allow you to unlock the doors (via the handle button) and start the vehicle. So, if this system was defeated in a similar way, anyone could walk up to your car and open or start it.

Why not just walk out to the car towards the end of your shift, start it and walk back in? Not that it's a great idea to leave your vehicle idling long enough to defrost the windshield, but it would seem a simple enough problem to work around.
 

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I take back part of that post.... evidently, there is a way to bypass the proximity sensor, though it comes at a cost...

This system requires your spare key. The spare key has its battery replaced by a switch that cuts power to the key until you go to start the car. Your fob is then embedded within the box wherever its mounted. I assume, at that point, all factory keyless functions would then be handled by the aftermarket system. Pretty ingenious, but then, you lose one of your two (very expensive) key fobs.

If you go with this, make sure you get a shop/tech that you trust, is qualified and will stand behind their work. Wiring up a remote starter, particularly one that defeats the factory system, is not a simple job. Your wiring harness will need to be spliced into in dozens of ways and poor workmanship could result in electrical gremlins that are difficult to troubleshoot - not to mention the implications to the factory warranty.
 

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well, I called the dealer service dept and they said it is possible to do without affecting anything, but they referred me to a specific business. They said they promote a product that they have had no problems with the intelligent key. He said they have had many issues with some after-market starters, so though they may be cheaper, it isnt a better deal in the long run.

The brand of remote start they use is AutoStart, and the price is $489-559 for a 2-way starter. They will stand by their work, with a lifetime warranty (for original owner).

Now I have to talk my hubby into letting me use the Edmunds.com giftcard for a new remote start for me, lol. He says im spoiled ;)
 

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Is this AutoStart product a separate keyfob for the autostart or does it use the factory smart key?
 

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Now I have to talk my hubby into letting me use the Edmunds.com giftcard for a new remote start for me, lol. He says im spoiled ;)
Honestly, for what it's going to take to install a system like that, I think I'd save the headache and just run out 10 minutes before the end of my shift, start the car and head back in.

Yeah, it's a PITA - but they will need to rip apart quite a bit of your interior, as well as underhood and hack into your wiring harness to install this thing. And of course, they'll need to bypass the iKey system one way or another (which will most likely mean losing one of your fobs and some of the security it affords).

Make sure that you trust the installer. Make sure that yours isn't the first Pathfinder they're doing this on. And make sure you have that warranty in writing and that the installer is an actual employee of the business (not a sub contractor), that the business has a good reputation, and that they are insured.

Call me crazy, but I wouldn't trust this kind of an install even to a dealership, and certainly not a mom and pop kind of operation.
 

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Honestly, for what it's going to take to install a system like that, I think I'd save the headache and just run out 10 minutes before the end of my shift, start the car and head back in.

Yeah, it's a PITA - but they will need to rip apart quite a bit of your interior, as well as underhood and hack into your wiring harness to install this thing. And of course, they'll need to bypass the iKey system one way or another (which will most likely mean losing one of your fobs and some of the security it affords).

Make sure that you trust the installer. Make sure that yours isn't the first Pathfinder they're doing this on. And make sure you have that warranty in writing and that the installer is an actual employee of the business (not a sub contractor), that the business has a good reputation, and that they are insured.

Call me crazy, but I wouldn't trust this kind of an install even to a dealership, and certainly not a mom and pop kind of operation.
I had a similar system installed in my 2010 Altima which had the inteli-key. It was made by Viper. I did not have to give them a fob, I actually ended up with 4 when finished. They use additional relays to defeat the factory security system. Problem is that it quickly adds to the cost of the system. The unit listed for 299.00 but ended up costing twice that when installed with everything I needed. All the wiring was done under the hood. It did have a 2-way remote which was great, it was nice to have confirmation that the car did in fact start and was running. The range on the Viper was over 500 ft. I could start my car from the train as it was pulling in to the station.

I am not sure if the OP's issue is range related or not. I am having problems starting mine when standing next it. What I will not do is give Nissan a free pass and purchase an after market unit. With a sticker price of over 40k, I don't think I'm asking to much.

My vehicle is going in next week to a have few issues looked at, hopefully it's operator error and not poor quality control.
 

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I had a similar system installed in my 2010 Altima which had the inteli-key. It was made by Viper. I did not have to give them a fob, I actually ended up with 4 when finished. They use additional relays to defeat the factory security system. Problem is that it quickly adds to the cost of the system. The unit listed for 299.00 but ended up costing twice that when installed with everything I needed. All the wiring was done under the hood. It did have a 2-way remote which was great, it was nice to have confirmation that the car did in fact start and was running. The range on the Viper was over 500 ft. I could start my car from the train as it was pulling in to the station.

I am not sure if the OP's issue is range related or not. I am having problems starting mine when standing next it. What I will not do is give Nissan a free pass and purchase an after market unit. With a sticker price of over 40k, I don't think I'm asking to much.

My vehicle is going in next week to a have few issues looked at, hopefully it's operator error and not poor quality control.
Are you sure it was all under the hood? At a minimum they typically have to place an antenna and a relay on the power locks. I know in my wife's Corolla (mind you, this was roughly 7-8 years ago), that required taking off the A-pillar trim as well as parts of the dash, kick panels and so forth.

As far as the factory system goes - it can be tricky. You have to lock the car (even if it's already locked) and within 5 seconds press and hold the remote start button.
 

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It as was a quick clean install, but I can't be 100% that they didnt pop a panel. The antenna was mounted above the rear view mirror on the the windshield. These systems have come along way since mounting a chipped key on the firewall.

Hopefully it can be resolved.
 

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OP here,

I have decided to wait and see...I have found a closer lot with visualization that the remote start can reach from the building. I would rather park in the original lot, but if I want to use the auto start, I know where I can park and have it work, lol.

As far as not letting Nissan off the hook.... They clearly state that the range of the remote start is 200 feet. I think it is ridiculous and a waste of time to have something with that small of a range installed in the vehicle, however I guess it gives them an extra feature to list. I bought the vehicle knowing the range, and hoping I could eek out enough distance for my needs. Unfortunately, it doesnt always cut the mustard... So, I guess I cant expect them to change anything just wish they hadnt put an inferior product in the vehicle in the first place.
 

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How do you find the performance of the starter when in range? I agree, you know the rated distance going in, and I can live with 200ft. But I am having problems at 30ft. It is very inconsistent , and that is what I will hold them accountable to.
 

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I recently purchased the dealer installed remote start for my 2013 PF-S and the dealer only returned one of my two original fobs. I did receive two new ones. When I asked for the other fob as I believe these things can be reprogrammed and are not cheap... The dealer told me that Nissan instructs them to destroy the old ones after the install etc... I refused to give him my other fob although he asked for it.

The dealer also told me not to try to use my old fob to start the vehicle as they would not work any longer and would cause a security problem. Seems strange the the old fobs wouldn't stay programmed to still operate the vehicle.

Pretty sure they just wanted my old ones to reuse elsewhere. Felt kinda slimy to me but what do I know?

Just wondered if any of you have encountered this?

Anyone had this experience?
 

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I'm not too sure but I'm guessing they only install the remote starter on one of the keys. I don't think your old one doesn't work. it should still work.
 
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