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So I’ve owned this piece of junk for 4 months, haven’t even put 3,000 miles on it. Took a 375 mile trip and in the last 10 miles got a low oil pressure light. Parked it for the night started back up in the morning to a check engine light. Plenty of oil and such. Had it towed to the only dealer in 150 miles they are telling me the engine is completely full of sludge and has to be replaced but it’s my fault and Nissan isn’t going to cover it.
thankfully my brother in law is taking mercy on me and coming down to tow it back to the home dealer. I called the dealer I bought it from and they are running scared of a lemon law suit and telling me they have all the records from 1st owner and will fight Nissan for me. Was wonder what the collective thoughts would be
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Jules, this is the second 2017 I've heard of now that had an engine sludged up and damaged to the point it needed an engine replacement. The first was from someone who bought it as an ex rental. He ultimately got the rental company it came from to foot the bill.. and easily too. They didn't fight it at all.

I've mentioned it a ton here and own a 2019 that was an ex rental. 2017 was the first year for the all new VQ35DD direct injected engines that our PFs have. Motor oil turns jet black almost instantly on them. My theory is if you go much beyond 4000mi between oil changes, it's going to lead to trouble. If you do lots of short trips I wouldn't go beyond 3000mi or 3 months between oil changes.

I wish you luck with this and keep us posted. It sounds like your original dealer is going to make things right.

FWIW, I use 5w30 synthetic oil in my 2019. Usually Supertech high mileage synthetic and I don't go beyond 4000mi.
 

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As long as you can prove that the oil was changed at the recommended intervals, powertrain warranty should cover it.
 

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As long as you can prove that the oil was changed at the recommended intervals, powertrain warranty should cover it.
Though the OP said they are at 36,500 miles.
 

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Power train warranty should be 5yrs/60k miles.
 
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thanks for the replies !!
so the dealer in Maryland where I was stranded has already had Nissan deny the claim on the power train warranty and cancel it because she was just a piece of work. At this point I’d be happy to allow it to sit like the overpriced paperweight it has become for 30 days lemon law it and get something new because even with a new engine how can I ever trust this car again.
My dealer is running absolutely scared, wants me to bring it to them an hour away instead of having it at the local Nissan where I can check on it anytime I want.
the dealer has all the paperwork dude changed the oil about every 3,000 miles, Nissan is in for a ride with me
 

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If one dealer has completely shut you down at this point for what ever reason and the other is willing to make it right so you can at least get out of the vehicle if you choose to, this is a no brainer IMO. It's all a big pain in the butt and I feel for you, but schidt happens.

Not really sure how lemon law would apply to this. It varies from state to state, plus it can be a long and drawn out process.

It typically only applies after repeated attempts to fix something in conjunction with a number of days it was out of commission because of the issue.

If this vehicle truly had an oil change done every 3k miles, there's other issues going on.

In reality, even if it only saw 2-3 oil changes in 36k miles, no engine should sludge to the point of destruction.

For reference, read this thread. It's not a Pathfinder, but basically the same vehicle, same engine: 2017 Engine Sludge= New Engine?

Here's the other thread I was referring to above: 17 nissan pathfinder warranty issues

Hope this helps.
 

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I agree with you pomanz, I was out of town and being treated like **** at the pit of town dealership, I called the dealer I bought it from and due to laws in my state it only has to sit for 30 days to be considered a lemon as it is within 1 year and 12,000 miles of purchase. The owner of my dealership knows this and knows if I go that route they will have to pay off my loan and possibly either replace the Pathfinder with a new one or another brand new vehicle of my choice.
this would be the reason they are so very willing to fight on my behalf. my dealer already knows that all replacing will be done at the dealer close to me so I can check on it at will and that it will have to gone over with a fine tooth comb before I will take it back
 

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Just out of interest what state are you in.
 

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I posted this thread up in a very busy automotive forum I've been active on for many years. No real activity on it. All I can assume is very few people own this engine and those that do, don't post their experiences.
 

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Ianh sorry privacy will keep me from
Sharing my state.
Pomanz, let me know if you hear anything, my Pathfinder has taken up residence in my sisters driveway for now, I have visions of watching it get crushed at a junkyard
 

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I am not a lawyer but I believe for the 30 day lemon law rule to kick in, Nissan must first acknowledge that the burden of the repair is on them and have not taken care of it.
Do you have physical records of all the oil changes? If so, I'd scan and send those to Nissan demanding them to explain why would they deny the repair under warranty. Do it in writing, stop making phone calls just in case you need to get a lawyer involved.
 

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Thanks for the input jman, I have thoroughly researched the lemon law in my state as my state is what I have to go by. As I said in the op I have to get the records from original owner and the dealer I bought it from is making that happen for me. Paperwork is easily thrown away or “lost” by companies that’s why it is mostly phased out for big corp in favor of emails and scans
 

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I know from my 2003 I purchased used the dealer could pull up the build sheet and all maintenance and repairs done at another nissan dealer in the 15 months and 23000 miles before I purchased it.
Why not ask the service people nicely to give you a copy.
Also the carfax reports often list service done at dealers and other shops although I admit its spotty
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Jules, this is the second 2017 I've heard of now that had an engine sludged up and damaged to the point it needed an engine replacement. The first was from someone who bought it as an ex rental. He ultimately got the rental company it came from to foot the bill.. and easily too. They didn't fight it at all.

I've mentioned it a ton here and own a 2019 that was an ex rental. 2017 was the first year for the all new VQ35DD direct injected engines that our PFs have. Motor oil turns jet black almost instantly on them. My theory is if you go much beyond 4000mi between oil changes, it's going to lead to trouble. If you do lots of short trips I wouldn't go beyond 3000mi or 3 months between oil changes.

I wish you luck with this and keep us posted. It sounds like your original dealer is going to make things right.

FWIW, I use 5w30 synthetic oil in my 2019. Usually Supertech high mileage synthetic and I don't go beyond 4000mi.
That’s so crazy because my 2018 is driving me crazy blowing blue smoke just burning oil and I can’t find out where it is coming from and it’s an ex rental
 

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Thanks for the input jman, I have thoroughly researched the lemon law in my state as my state is what I have to go by. As I said in the op I have to get the records from original owner and the dealer I bought it from is making that happen for me. Paperwork is easily thrown away or “lost” by companies that’s why it is mostly phased out for big corp in favor of emails and scans
Yeah good luck it sucks it really does because these cars aren’t cheap
 

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I know from my 2003 I purchased used the dealer could pull up the build sheet and all maintenance and repairs done at another nissan dealer in the 15 months and 23000 miles before I purchased it.
Why not ask the service people nicely to give you a copy.
Also the carfax reports often list service done at dealers and other shops although I admit its spotty
Good luck
Thanks for the veiled insult I’m not a moron, I have the carfax, they stopped taking it to the dealer because the dealer was 45 minutes away from them. There is no blame to that I wouldn’t want to drive 1.5 hour round trip for an oil change. Reporting oil changes isn’t mandatory anywhere
 

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That’s so crazy because my 2018 is driving me crazy blowing blue smoke just burning oil and I can’t find out where it is coming from and it’s an ex rental
I wouldn’t put it past the engine being sludged to death. The real question is what are they doing or not doing when these are manufactured to have this continuing to occur I was never on time changing my pilots oil and this never happened. Worst thing my pilot did was have carbon build up in the egr ports and a fuel injector die off
 

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Reporting oil changes isn’t mandatory anywhere
That's true. When I bought my 2019 as an ex-rental last year with 24K miles on it, it only had one oil change reported on the carfax at around 14K miles. The next OC was reported when the dealer network I bought it from did one when they took it into inventory @ 24K miles. It's likely it only saw 2 oil changes in 24K miles, when Nissan recommends something like 5K miles in the manual. It could have had more. I'll never know.

Like you say, pretty much any engine these days should be able to handle ~12K miles and not skip a beat (not that I'd ever go that long between oil changes).

After I took delivery of my PF, I noticed the engine oil looked black and immediately changed it. The filter I took off was basically brand-new (aftermarket) so I do believe the oil was changed. That's when I discovered these engines turn the engine oil black almost immediately and is why I recommend not exceeding 3000 miles between oil changes with them as much as a pain in the ass that is. I record my oil changes on the "my carfax" app, but don't keep receipts, or take pictures, etc, so I assume if my engine sludges before 60K miles, I'm screwed.

I've been using walmart supertech synthetic 5w30 (not the recommended 0w20) and Nissan filters. I bought a case of 12 nissan filters online for pretty cheap.
 
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