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I finally got around to installing the 4118 kit purchased from etrailer.com On the site it states it is for 4WD only, but after looking at both rear ends I really can not find how this would make a difference.

So I also think the rear airbags are to short. It made a difference, no doubt, but its still not enough. Before the rear fenders where "tucked" into the tires. Now I have about 1.5" clearance. I did make a mistake and filled them to 20psi before loading the trailer. Not after like I should of.

Install was really easy. Just worked it in deflated. I ran the lines into one with a "T" so I always have them at the same psi and only have to worry about one valve.

I'll update it more once I tow again this weekend.

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So the 4118 bags are too short, is a solution available to correct this? I'm guessing I'll need something as I plan to tow close to the max. On another note it is my understanding shocks being soft or hard have nothing to do with support of hitch load. Please correct me if you disagree. Springs do the support, shocks only dampen immediate change.
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How much taller should they be? Should someone contact Firestone or the other company and request a taller part? I would normally say we just search for them but I have not found a list of dimensions and part #s .
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Well I just found this"
4118 Specifications



If the 4118 uses 7"x4" air springs, perhaps a 8x4 or 9x4 would be better?


https://www.airliftcompany.com/shop/46129/
https://www.airliftcompany.com/shop/46130/

With some cross referencing, the airlift company part is 60774. I am trying to find a list for the dimensions on the air bags in that kit.

https://www.airliftcompany.com/shop/60774/

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AIL60274 Specifications

  • Air Spring Diameter:4 inches
  • Air Spring Length:7 inches
  • Manufacturers Part Number:60274
So both kits are the same size. Now we just need to build or ask for one that is a little taller.

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The width is spot on. The height should be 1" taller at least. Not more than 1.5" from what I can tell.

As for the springs, since towing my pop up the rear has sagged so much even without any load on it. I am looking for another Pathfinder to park next to for a side by side shot. My guess its 1" lower than it was 6 months ago. Even at 10 psi on the bags the rear lifted up .75 of an inch over from before. This is after flexing the suspension around the house driving.

In the shots below you can see the bag width is fine. (These have 25psi in them) but the lower valve line hangs to low off the rear trailing arm. Then the location where I placed the valve under the rear curve of the bumper. Taken at night so sorry about the clarity
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The width is spot on. The height should be 1" taller at least. Not more than 1.5" from what I can tell.

As for the springs, since towing my pop up the rear has sagged so much even without any load on it. I am looking for another Pathfinder to park next to for a side by side shot. My guess its 1" lower than it was 6 months ago. Even at 10 psi on the bags the rear lifted up .75 of an inch over from before. This is after flexing the suspension around the house driving.

In the shots below you can see the bag width is fine. (These have 25psi in them) but the lower valve line hangs to low off the rear trailing arm. Then the location where I placed the valve under the rear curve of the bumper. Taken at night so sorry about the clarity

In image 2 of 4 you can see at the top the gap between the top of the bag and the bumb stop. There is about 1 to 1.5" there that the rear will sag before it even hits the airbag. With this car being so low, this needs to be addressed.

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There are a two other issues I see with that kit that I do not like. The fill tube having to route through the bottom and them loop back up. It's going to get ripped off during the first trip out on the beach, any minor off roading, or simply running over some road debris. And the second issue I see is the right side tube being so close to the exhaust pipe.

Thank you for sharing the pictures with everyone. Hopefully we can now all find a way to improve the 4118 kit.

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There are a two other issues I see with that kit that I do not like. The fill tube having to route through the bottom and them loop back up. It's going to get ripped off during the first trip out on the beach, any minor off roading, or simply running over some road debris. And the second issue I see is the right side tube being so close to the exhaust pipe.

Thank you for sharing the pictures with everyone. Hopefully we can now all find a way to improve the 4118 kit.

I agree with the tubing coming out the bottom being an issue. The tubing around the exhaust pipe really isnt a problem on how I ran that side. I could take more pictures but Im lazy. But you are right, when a new kit comes out this is going on craigslist. Until then, this is what im stuck with.

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so the bags that would be ideal are these 2 listed below. I wonder if you can order a kit and have the bags swapped out for one of the taller ones?

https://www.airliftcompany.com/shop/46129/
https://www.airliftcompany.com/shop/46130/

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